March 02, 2011

My Follow up on Dan.


Some may find it unoriginal to post about a topic that has previously been posted about, but I have quite a few words of my own and I believe they are better read in a post than in a comment that looks like a book, so here goes.

First of all, I don't know Dan all that well and have only met him one time. But it is often said that actions speak louder than words, and let me just say his actions are screaming loudly.

I think we're all aware of Dan's(SaltyDan) "bullying" and how it has affected many people.
So let me just dive into my point before it fades.
I want to start by addressing the comments I've read on Stacy's post and those who are being addressed know quite well who they are.

One commenter suggests that if you don't want to be bullied by Dan then you just shouldn't speak to him. Easy, right? Wrong.
It's hard not to communicate with someone who takes their time going to another person's page and sending them a message that suggests they tease you. Sure you could ignore them. But that gets hard after a while. And don't pretend like you think it doesn't.

Another commenter said that Dan was only speaking the truth.
The first time I met Dan, I noticed how hateful he was being, but I didn't think to say anything because I wasn't a fan of the person he was torturing, and that was WRONG of me. But after seeing all the hateful things he does, it sickens me. There is a FINE line between being "honest" and taking it too far.
I've been simply honest(i.e ElitesExposed) and even that was hurting people. Imagine the emotional damage he is doing.

A lot of people might agree that Dan being homosexual has something to do with his behavior and some may say that they believe it doesn't interfere with the way he behaves.
And as I'm typing this I envision him commenting and saying that he was accepted by family and friends. However, I don't believe that's true(Just an opinion, aren't they handy?); I believe that his behavior towards others stems from some of the negative attention he receives from his lifestyle.
While I don't have a single problem with those who are attracted to the same sex, I don't believe that it gives him a right to treat others the way he does.

A commenter said that Dan is so loved and has so many followers.
Why is that?
In my opinion, a good deal of those people are friends that know and like Dan. And another bit of those "friends" are people that believe if they are nice to Dan and try to defend him, he won't turn on them and make a mockery out of them for everyone to see. I won't be one of those people and neither should you.

We talk about how bullying is wrong, but some of us all resort to it at some time or another. Maybe it's because we feel jaded by someone or dislike them for certain reasons. 
But Dan lashes out on people for either attention or his own personal and twisted reasons.

This post isn't going to make Dan stop; Hell, it may even inspire him to down talk me in whatever way he can or thank me for putting his name in the spotlight.
But my disgust doesn't lie with him entirely; it lies also with those who are defending him.
If you were the one who played victim to his hatefulness, you wouldn't be so quick to jump to his defense. That's bullshit.

82 comments:

  1. Dan, Daniel; Just a loser with a big mouth and crazy thoughts.

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  2. What goes around comes around. And in this case, Dan is receiving what he sent out ten fold.

    What he does is just as bad as hacking actually. Both hurts. The way Dan stalks and tortures his victims is worse because emotional wounds heal far slower than those made if you actually hit a person.

    This may be a virtual site but DAN'S HURTFUL COMMENTS ARE DIRECTED TOWARDS THE PERSON BEHIND THE MONITOR. CERTAINLY THOSE ARE NOT DIRECTED TOWARDS THE DOLL!!!

    Do not be stupid everyone. It is because of you people who glorify people like him that's why he acts the way he does.

    I can't imagine you coming onto his defense as quickly as you did now if it is you on the receiving end of his hurtful rants and comments.

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  3. What goes around comes around. And in this case, Dan is receiving what he sent out ten fold.

    What he does is just as bad as hacking actually. Both hurts. The way Dan stalks and tortures his victims is worse because emotional wounds heal far slower than those made if you actually hit a person.

    This may be a virtual site but DAN'S HURTFUL COMMENTS ARE DIRECTED TOWARDS THE PERSON BEHIND THE MONITOR. CERTAINLY THOSE ARE NOT DIRECTED TOWARDS THE DOLL!!!

    Do not be stupid everyone. It is because of you people who glorify people like him that's why he acts the way he does.

    I can't imagine you coming onto his defense as quickly as you did now if it is you on the receiving end of his hurtful rants and comments.

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  4. You guys are bullying him now to be honest, one post I can understand but two?

    This is not fair, you are doing what you have accused him of.

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  5. It's unfair to discuss his personal life in my opinion.

    What is going on with this blog, it's gone from being really classy to a hate filled read, I honestly do not like this direction at all.

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  6. Look at the comments he's been making around Stardoll and around the blogs. Do you think that in itself is fair?

    He's just getting what he deserves now in my opinion.

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  7. I think this blog has gone 360 degrees which is really great. It's a lifestyle blog and everything and anything relevant to Stardoll is discussed here.

    Nobody is forced to read what they don't want to read and anybody who wants to leave are more than welcome to leave I believe.

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  8. Anonymous Anonymous said...

    It's unfair to discuss his personal life in my opinion.

    What is going on with this blog, it's gone from being really classy to a hate filled read, I honestly do not like this direction at all.

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    So calling people "FAT" based on that person's "real life pictures" is fair enough for you?

    You must be sick. or you must be Dan.

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  9. tinkerbell101 said...

    What goes around comes around. And in this case, Dan is receiving what he sent out ten fold.

    What he does is just as bad as hacking actually. Both hurts. The way Dan stalks and tortures his victims is worse because emotional wounds heal far slower than those made if you actually hit a person.

    This may be a virtual site but DAN'S HURTFUL COMMENTS ARE DIRECTED TOWARDS THE PERSON BEHIND THE MONITOR. CERTAINLY THOSE ARE NOT DIRECTED TOWARDS THE DOLL!!!

    Do not be stupid everyone. It is because of you people who glorify people like him that's why he acts the way he does.

    I can't imagine you coming onto his defense as quickly as you did now if it is you on the receiving end of his hurtful rants and comments.

    March 2, 2011 12:25 PM

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    This is very well said.

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  10. Patrick and this blog seem to be obsessed with Dan.

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  11. Patrick, with all due respect you called him a fag so for you then to expect sympathy for being called fat is quite poposterous.

    You are both in the wrong as I see it but Dan isnt acting like he's an innocent victim like you are.

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  12. IF HE IS BEING A BULLY THEN BY YOUR OWN STANDARDS YOU ARE A BULLY TOO AND YOU ONLY WROTE THIS BECAUSE YOUR LAST POST WENT DOWN LIKE A LEAD BALLOON.

    IF HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING TO YOU WHY ARE YOU EVEN GETTING INVOLVED? OH WAIT...BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO WRITE ABOUT.

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  13. Just for your information. I am not the Patrick who owns Devie44's account. I just realized that that's what all of you thought.

    And also, for all of you Dan supporters who are anonymously commenting here, why don't you all use your real accounts and comment with them and show us how strongly you support somebody like him.

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  14. Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Patrick and this blog seem to be obsessed with Dan.

    March 2, 2011 12:48 PM

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    But you are all cheering on the sides as multiple humiliating posts on mizzmileycyrus9 are being done on more than 1 blog right?

    You Stardoll people are funny.

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  15. No, him calling you fat is unkind, about as unkind as you calling him a fag.

    You are both in the wrong. I think this whole subject is horrible and silly, I think all this about one person is horrible and sad, he may have done some questionable things but to me the right thing would be to speak to the person you have a problem with, not make posts like this, which in all fairness do make you a bully also.

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  16. Why would I put my username here?

    You are showing just as much contempt as the person you are calling a bully, why would I put myself at the hands of you people so you can hate on me too?

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  17. He seems a pretty nice person to me, maybe harsh but that list thing was atrocious and he was not the only person to trash it. Why don't you target anybody else who said it was bad, too?

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  18. Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Why would I put my username here?

    You are showing just as much contempt as the person you are calling a bully, why would I put myself at the hands of you people so you can hate on me too?

    March 2, 2011 1:06 PM

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    you're just a coward

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  19. Anonymous said...

    He seems a pretty nice person to me, maybe harsh but that list thing was atrocious and he was not the only person to trash it. Why don't you target anybody else who said it was bad, too?

    March 2, 2011 1:09 PM
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    Were you able to read Stacy's post and see the screenshots?

    First of all it is not Stacy's responsibility to apologize to him.

    Stacy have the freedom to publish an apology on any blog for all I care but Dan's acting as if everybody owes him the world.

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  20. I breezed over the first post like this writen by GossipGirl4real and just put it down as an eye for an eye, he called her talentless and she called him names back. Tit for tat.

    This post though is actually bullying, I am slightly older than most people here and I read this blog and enjoy it but come on, one post was enough, the feedback seemed 50/50 and that was that, there is no need for another one like it now, if he read it he got your point and the readers also got it too, I think this has gone far enough and this post should be deleted because it has no reason for being posted other than to kick a person while they are down. Of all the accused bullying this is the one that is actually bullying because it's just randomly hate infused blogging.

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  21. Anonymous said...

    No, him calling you fat is unkind, about as unkind as you calling him a fag.

    You are both in the wrong. I think this whole subject is horrible and silly, I think all this about one person is horrible and sad, he may have done some questionable things but to me the right thing would be to speak to the person you have a problem with, not make posts like this, which in all fairness do make you a bully also.

    March 2, 2011 1:04 PM

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    I am not the Patrick who owns Devie44

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  22. Patrick, if you are not devie44 then are not not just as cowadly as us anonymous posters too?

    I did not notice you reveal what your account is.

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  23. As I see it. This is Aislin's opinion and she is entitled to it. I don't see anything wrong with this post.

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  24. The fact remains, what you people are calling bullying is simply tit for tat.

    I see no bullying between SaltyDan and devie44, especially as their argument seems pretty much even, it was not one sided at all and the same with saltyDan and gossipgirl4real, both have said their peace and pled their case.

    This post, however is actually bullying, out of it all this is the only thing I can see as being bullying, the writer had no point, she just wanted to bash a person.

    Anyway, good day to you all.

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  25. Anonymous said...

    Patrick, if you are not devie44 then are not not just as cowadly as us anonymous posters too?

    I did not notice you reveal what your account is.

    March 2, 2011 1:18 PM
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    You just called me by my real name. Patrick. That isn't as anonymous as you are right?

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  26. You are all fucking arguing and I bet Dan doesnt even give a shit.

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  27. Anonymous said...

    You are all fucking arguing and I bet Dan doesnt even give a shit.

    March 2, 2011 1:24 PM
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    True. But apparently, a lot of his anonymous supporters do give a lot of shit.

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  28. Fine my name is Maria, what difference does it actually make?

    If I am a coward then you are a coward, not all the anonymous comments are mine either, just two.

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  29. Maria said...

    Fine my name is Maria, what difference does it actually make?

    If I am a coward then you are a coward, not all the anonymous comments are mine either, just two.

    March 2, 2011 1:25 PM
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    whatever. you are not making any relevance.

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  30. You think you are?

    Deluded and obsessed is the only things you have proven to be.

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  31. Maria said...

    You think you are?

    Deluded and obsessed is the only things you have proven to be.

    March 2, 2011 1:29 PM
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    funny.

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  33. I'm sorry bitch, who the fuck are you?
    Commenting on his lifestyle and shit like you know him, let me tell you, I've known Dan for about 2/3 years, we've been best friends 2 years(there was a fallout, on my own fault), we speak on the phone and text nearly everday so I think I know him a little more than you. You think people are friends with him because basically, we're scared of him? I'm friends with him because he's a wonderful person, there's not another person like him and most certainly no one you ever have or ever will is like him. Don't comment on someone you don't know, and clearly don't know the situation, I've heard about and witnessed most of this 'bullying'. Dan doesn't PICK on people, he defends himself, he doesn't say stuff to people without a reason, so honestly fuck off, you're just a small minded ignorant person who honestly needs to stick to writing about virtual dresses. Next time, maybe talk to the person before you judge them.
    And Patrick you harassed him and I on MSN for weeks because we uncovered you were a fat greasy boy? Haha.

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  34. Whats funny if you think you fooled anyone saying your not devie44.

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  35. lila just pwned everyone lolololol

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  36. Lila said...

    I'm sorry bitch, who the fuck are you?
    Commenting on his lifestyle and shit like you know him, let me tell you, I've known Dan for about 2/3 years, we've been best friends 2 years(there was a fallout, on my own fault), we speak on the phone and text nearly everday so I think I know him a little more than you. You think people are friends with him because basically, we're scared of him? I'm friends with him because he's a wonderful person, there's not another person like him and most certainly no one you ever have or ever will is like him. Don't comment on someone you don't know, and clearly don't know the situation, I've heard about and witnessed most of this 'bullying'. Dan doesn't PICK on people, he defends himself, he doesn't say stuff to people without a reason, so honestly fuck off, you're just a small minded ignorant person who honestly needs to stick to writing about virtual dresses. Next time, maybe talk to the person before you judge them.
    And Patrick you harassed him and I on MSN for weeks because we uncovered you were a fat greasy boy? Haha.

    March 2, 2011 1:35 PM
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    Birds of the same feather flock together.

    You're mouth is as dirty and as big as your so called friend's.

    Bitch, everything you're written above, you must tell that to Dan. especially the part where you said "Don't comment on someone you don't know"

    Practice what you preach.

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  37. Anonymous Anonymous said...

    lila just pwned everyone lolololol

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    LMFAO! She so didn't. lololololololol

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  38. Maria said...

    Whats funny if you think you fooled anyone saying your not devie44.

    March 2, 2011 1:38 PM

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    Believe what you want to believe silly.

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  39. @Lila - WHO ARE YOU? A GOD DAMN FAG'S LAWYER?

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  40. You've used that account and said you are devie44, Patrick.

    Sorry, I like you but you have so why are you claiming otherwise now?

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  41. Lila, I suggest you tell everything you said on your comment to your friend.

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  42. This post was okay until the homophobia you diclaim became so very obvious.

    The writer is clearly homophobic.

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  43. Anonymous said...

    You've used that account and said you are devie44, Patrick.

    Sorry, I like you but you have so why are you claiming otherwise now?

    March 2, 2011 1:54 PM
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    When and where did I do that?

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  44. Number 1, Patrick why copy and paste my whole thing? Just comment back, you are so dumb it is just unreal.
    My mouth is dirty? Have you seen your hair lately, boy? And big? You're honestly in no place to call something big.
    Actually, I'm pretty sure Dan doesn't comment on people he doesn't know, I think you'll find he and Charlotte have actually had a past, and all the people he has argued with, as I've said before, they have all done something. And if you're trying to imply that you're innocent? Last time I checked, pretending to be a girl isn't innocent, and actually slightly creepy. You can deny the harassing all you like, I know that you'll fess to it sooner or later, it's happened before and it'll happen again sweetie.
    Now I have better things to do, and so do you, maybe have a shower or something?

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  45. @Anonymous I think it's slightly contradicting asking someone who they are while being anonymous.
    @tinkerbell101 ?

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  46. I hope your not homophobic, it seems really homophobic at the end of the post.

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  47. Lila, if you aren't as stupid as you are, you will figure out sooner that I am not Devie44.

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  48. I like Dan, he has always been nice to me, and I like Charoltte, though I don't agree with him being nasty to Char, even if she was nasty to him it still isn't the time to be so nasty to her.

    I am not and will not take sides to this. Though he could be nicer, I still see him as a nice person.
    Sometimes you need to be dishonest to be kind.

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  49. I still think he is really cute, when I saw him on tinychat I didn't think it was really him, he is very cute and handsome, so I will stand up for him for shallow reasons really but I like him and I don't think he is a bully, he is just very outspoken and if you don't like it don't like it then don't antagonise him.

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  50. My bad, I apologise.
    But even more reason for you not to say shit about him, I could midly see why devie would because we uncovered he was a fat old man but what's he done to you?

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  51. Lila don't fall for it, this Patrick IS devie44. Why else is he stalking the comments??

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  52. I. Hate. Dan. And. Will. Never. Forgive. Him.

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  53. stop posting about Dan because that is just what he wants !! ATTENTION. he is a ATTENTION SEEKER !! that's why he did the whole thing !!

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  54. Northgirl, he probably never even did anything to you, you just want to join the hater parade, you sad bitch

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  55. True, he has the ignorance and wit of someone as idiotic as devie.

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  56. Why did you delete my last comment?

    You don't like being told some home truthes I see, fuck this blog, you say we are all entitled to an opinion but when it's not agreed upon by the bloggers they delete it.

    pffftt and you call us the cowards, fuck you and Isabella and Noelle, you are just trying to turn this blog into Perez and it's coming off as a second rate rip off, second rate news, second rate writing and worst of all second rate writers.

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  57. Fuck you Anon. It probablky got tagged as spam.

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  58. This blog is so much better than PSG! It's not just gossip but a whole lot of other things. That's my opinion

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  59. The people saying this blog is better must be people who work for it because nobody else would be stupid enough to actually think that.

    Perez is so much better, Perez is a better owner too and of course the writers are better, because posts like this are proof of how shit the writers over here are.

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  60. YEAH ITS MORE THAN PEREZ, THIS POST IS HYPOCRITICAL BULLYING.

    MY OPINION.

    WHY THE HOLY FUCK IS THIS DUMB MOTHER FUCKER CALLING SOMEBODY A BULLY AND THEN DOING THIS KIND OF POST?

    FUCKING DUMB BITCH IDIOT!!

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  61. Whatever their opinions are I really loved your blog. I also enjoyed all the the comments.
    @ Patrick - you're witty and hilarious. I like you.

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  62. Haha I have nothing to Say except for the the person at the bottom who claims I deleted their comment. I haven't deleted anyone's comment. This is my first look at anything anyone has said because I have been asleep for the past eight hours.

    As to numerous "bullying" comments; I'm not bullying Dan, and I never intended to.

    To his friend Lila:
    I don't claim to know him. We're not "bffs" and I don't chat with him on the daily. But I have chatted with him for quite some time and been a witness to his torture. And I'm pretty sure the proof on Stacy's post will give you all you need to verify that he isn't just speaking the truth and stating his opinion. He's intentionally dragging people done and it's sick. Patrick may be fat, but why is that a factor? Why should that matter?

    You all have clearly read the post how you wanted to read and not for what it was.I'm not asking him to change, I'm not asking any of his friends to stop being his friends. I'm not even asking him to stop treating people like shit. I'm just asking you all to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. Dan can be helped, not by me and not by Stacy, but by his friends. Those who are defending him right now can better influence him to stop bullying. Because when that bullying goes too far, people do dangerous things and I shouldn't have to get into that for you to all know what I'm talking about.

    Again, not trying to convince you to do anything. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

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  63. FOR THE UNGRATEFUL FUCKS (aka DAN'S FANS) TRASHING THIS BLOG, WHY DON'T YOU ALL JUST MOVE OVER TO PSG, HOVER AT THE "INTELLIGENT" POSTS OF SOULLESS ENTITY AND STOP COMING ON HERE?

    THIS IS A SHITTY BLOG RIGHT? BUT ALL YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKERS CAN'T JUST GET ENOUGH OF IT AND YOU'RE LIKE VULTURES HOVERING OVER THE POSTS AND FEASTING ON IT.

    HILARIOUS.

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  64. FOR THE UNGRATEFUL FUCKS (aka DAN'S FANS) TRASHING THIS BLOG, WHY DON'T YOU ALL JUST MOVE OVER TO PSG, HOVER AT THE "INTELLIGENT" POSTS OF SOULLESS ENTITY AND STOP COMING ON HERE?

    THIS IS A SHITTY BLOG RIGHT? BUT ALL YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKERS CAN'T JUST GET ENOUGH OF IT AND YOU'RE LIKE VULTURES HOVERING OVER THE POSTS AND FEASTING ON IT.

    HILARIOUS.

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  65. Reality Check: Nobody forced all of you dumb fucks to be here.

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  66. @FuckDan'sFans, Soulless Entity is also a writer for this blog. You can't always trust appearances darling!

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  67. LOL he's not a bully though, how many times do I have to say this!

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  68. Soulless Entity works for this blog too you stupid fuck. She fits right in with the freaks and wannabes.

    Aislin Rane Victory, get over yourself, this whole post was self indulgent and made to attack somebody for no reason, if he is a bully then you are too, why else would you make a post such as this? You got the attention you craved at another persons expense. You still are not popular, what did you gain?

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  69. I asked if he read this and he said he only reads PSG and SMW so you and the fame seeker who made the last post wasted your time.

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  70. There were two wrongs.
    Aislin, although I do know some of your words to be true, it is simply rude to talk about somebody else (disrespectfully) on a public blog, especially one with so many viewers. Dan may have done something wrong but now you have done something too.

    I agree, Dan should be nicer, but we can't change what others are. We can only take their example and strive to be better ourselves.

    I firmly believe in this.

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  71. Wait what?! Who's Soulless Identity? Isabella??!?!?!?!!?!1

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  72. Anonymous said...
    I asked if he read this and he said he only reads PSG and SMW so you and the fame seeker who made the last post wasted your time.

    March 3, 2011 2:35 AM

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    So this makes him more a liar then.

    He's got numerous comments around this blog. I'm sure you didnt check and you just chose to believe him.

    He won't comment on the posts exposing what kind of a person he is of course.

    Got the big picture now? I'm sure you still didn't

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  73. Anonymous said...
    Wait what?! Who's Soulless Identity? Isabella??!?!?!?!!?!1

    March 3, 2011 4:40 AM

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    uhmmm... Soulless Identity is probably Isabella. But definitely not Soulless Entity. LOL!

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  74. Princess_Dumini (couldn't bother logging in)Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:16:00 AM

    I agree with Aislin! When i saw dan's post about gossipgirl4real and LadyGagaMcQuenn, I was SO pissed. Fuck You Dan

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  75. I agree with iswim, you've actually stooped lower by writing this and questioning his private life.

    This blog has no pride left at all, I am shocked by the last few tasteless posts.

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  76. ♥ this blog.

    SaltyDan is a fucked up bully.

    That's the bottomline.

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  77. You are all just way too sensitive and immature.

    I love how he did not reply though, he probably read it laughed and moved on.

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  78. I didn't read all the posts on this so I am not sure what is going on, but I can only state my personal opinion.

    I really like Dan, Char and Devie44They all have been very nice to me and I try to judge people on how treat me or things I see first hand.

    There was a time a long time ago, where Dan came to my blog and made a comment that was really hurtful. But as I do, I stood up for myself and fired back at him. As I am not afraid or ANYONE. Dan and I talked. We both apologized and became friends.

    I have to think that he was probably defending himself. We all say mean things in defense.

    Bullying is wrong no matter the reason and I hope he is not doing that.

    I really wish we would all stop these negative posts about eachother. As you stated Aislin, you posted things in your blog (some about me) that were just as hurtful and cruel. You believed them to be factual, but I have gotdisagreed. We have since resolved all that between us, but it was hurtful.

    We have got to all stop poisioning eachother.

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  79. Whilst on Tinychat [webcam], an anonymous person was calling me horrid names. Dan was there too, and could see what was happening, so he butted in and defended me.

    Thanks, Dan.

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Nice to see you back! Oh wait. .. .who are you again?